On 6/17/2012 4:25 PM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Jun 18, 5:30 am, ***@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> In article
>> <cc7d451d-1e23-4cd9-865c-***@qt7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>
>> Arindam Banerjee <***@bigpond.com> posted:
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>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
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>>>> In article
>>>> <a9e86190-1465-444c-af71-***@mi5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Arindam Banerjee <***@bigpond.com> posted:
>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <cb65b207-92fb-4c04-a123-***@h10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <***@bigpond.com> posted:
>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>> <7b4f9757-e55d-44d6-ba57-***@re8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee <***@bigpond.com> posted:
>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Humanity escapes the solar system: Voyager 1 signals that
>>>>>>>>>>> it has reached the edge of interstellar space - 11
>>>>>>>>>>> billion miles away
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>>>>>>>>>>> By Eddie Wrenn
>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday, June 14, 2012
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>>>>>>>>>>> With absolutely no attempt at hyperbole at all, it is
>>>>>>>>>>> fair to say that this is one of - if not the - biggest
>>>>>>>>>>> achievement of the human race.
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>>>>>>>>>>> For, as we speak, an object conceived in the human mind,
>>>>>>>>>>> and built by our tools, and launched from our planet, is
>>>>>>>>>>> sailing out of the further depths of our solar system -
>>>>>>>>>>> and will be the first object made by man to sail out into
>>>>>>>>>>> interstellar space.
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>>>>>>>>>>> The Voyager 1, built by Nasa and launched in 1977 has
>>>>>>>>>>> spent the last 35 years steadily increasing its distance
>>>>>>>>>>> from Earth, and is now now 17,970,000,000km - or
>>>>>>>>>>> 11,100,000,000miles - away, travelling at 10km a second.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Indications over the last week implies that Voyager 1 is
>>>>>>>>>>> now leaving the heliosphere - the last vestige of this
>>>>>>>>>>> solar system.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Continues here:
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>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2159359/Humanity-escap...
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>>>>>>>>>> A question for Arindam Banerjee: why isn't the term
>>>>>>>>>> "potential energy" interchangeable with the "internal
>>>>>>>>>> force" as defined in your work, if it isn't?
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>>>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
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>>>>>>>>> The terms "energy" and "force" are never interchangeable. Energy is a
>>>>>>>>> scalar, while force is a vector. =3D3DA0They have different dimensions and
>>>>>>>>> different definitions.
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>>>>>>>> Yes, quite.
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>>>>>>>>> It would be more correct to compare/contrast potential energy with
>>>>>>>>> internal energy, for the moving object that is powered with the IFE, a
>>>>>>>>> different kind of space engine proposed by myself. However, this is a
>>>>>>>>> detailed issue.
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>>>>>>>> Indeed, I meant to write "potential energy" and "internal
>>>>>>>> energy". Dhanyavaad for pointing this out.
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>>>>>>>>> In the case of an object on earth, the pendulum which if lossless
>>>>>>>>> gives the notion of the law of conservation of energy - at the top
>>>>>>>>> position it has potential energy which converts to kinetic energy at
>>>>>>>>> the bottom. =3D3DA0Energy thus remains "constant" until it dissipates
>>>>>>>>> heat (through collision, air resistance) thereby increasing the
>>>>>>>>> as entropy of the universe. =3D3DA0Whatever that is.
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>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
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>>>>>>>> In one school of thought, measuring entropy is
>>>>>>>> measuring disorder.
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>>>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>>>> Om Shanti
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>>>>>>> More precisely in thermodynamics terms, it very roughly
>>>>>>> relates to the amount of heat NOT converted to work in a
>>>>>>> heat engine over a cycle. It is a mathematical concept
>>>>>>> with practical uses, for the design of heat engines.
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>>>>>> Will your IFE be seen as defying any laws of
>>>>>> thermodynamics as they are taught conventionally?
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>>>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>>>> Om Shanti
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>>>>> Oh yes. =A0It always breaks the law of conservation of
>>>>> energy, and makes the concept of entropy at the best
>>>>> obsolete. =A0In other words, if you can make any device
>>>>> accelerate with internal force (meaning, no contact of
>>>>> the object with earth, air or water) then you jolly well
>>>>> also break the law of conservation of energy.
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>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Arindam Banerjee
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>>>> And that in essence is what has got your critics so very
>>>> upset -- so much so in fact that one or more of them want
>>>> to "insulate" USENET readers from your work
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>>> Actually, they (my critics) have succeeded very well
>>> indeed so far, in making me an unemployable pariah
>>> shunned everywhere by the einsteinian establishements.
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>> Would you want to work for the "einsteinian
>> establishements", as you put it?
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> Certainly not. However a chap has to survive, so forced to be without
> a job is the equivalent of gettting starved. Of course, this is
> better than being burnt at the stake, etc. and for that I am grateful
> for the progress humanity has made so far.
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>>> But, they have not managed to shut me up, let alone crush
>>> my spirits. On the other hand, technologies like
>>> Facebook, Twitter, Youtube have become vastly popular and
>>> so usenet readership is alas, down. So the critics can
>>> rest easy.
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>> I have been reading that USENET is gaining new popularity
>> but was also informed of the reason for it recently. And
>> it's not because of these text-based newsgroups. So you
>> are correct
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> Well, so I have to give the new technologies a try and see where that
> gets me. Maybe Usenet text groups will survive the way ham radio has
> survived. I hope so, at least! This is the last bastion of true
> intellectual freedom, still beyond the direct scope of the horta-
> kortas and hoamra-chomras (Bengali idioms for busybodies and fatcats).
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>>>> and also protect you from yourself!
>>
>>>> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
>>>> Om Shanti
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>>> Basically they are blackmailing bullies, out to get my
>>> works for less than nothing. They don't understand that I
>>> really want to give it away free, but they do not deserve
>>> same as they are unworhtly cowards and slimy abusive
>>> hypocrites. So, I must go my own lonely way, to the tune
>>> of Tagore's jodi tore daak shune keu na aashe tobe ackla
>>> cholo re (if no one comes to your call, then go alone)
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>>> Cheers,
>>> Arindam Banerjee
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>> Many scientists and others have given away their work for
>> free, and the world is grateful to them for the gifts.
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> Yes, but science was not so institutionalised in those days. Those
> scientists who made the great discoveries were curious amateurs, as
> opposed to the grant-grabbing PhD professionals of our time. Thus
> paperwork is far more important than inspiration and initiative. Not
> to upset the establishment in any way, is their Prime Directive - or
> else! Such controls reduce the scientists to slaves under the whips
> of the moneyed and empowered non-scientists, to the detriment of
> scientific advancement. So the scientist of our time and of the
> future time has to become independently wealthy. To get out of their
> clutches. Otherwise the present evils and inequalities, will forever
> continue. The resistance of the corrupt establishments everywhere to
> my new and very necessary concepts, the HTN and the IFE, convinces me
> of this. Anyone can see how the goons and perverts are out to stick
> knives in my back, for all my pains to save humanity from their
> clutches!
Ah! The long-suffering martyr, the veritable Atlas carrying the world on
his shoulder, the hero who will rescue humanity (hopefully before Dec.
21, 2012 - the Mayan jyotishits had "predicted" bad things were going to
happen)...
BTW, you were threatening to the research on your own dime (since you
are independently wealthy - how do you say that in "saniskrit"?), all
for the sake of humanity. What happened? Did the 'perv' padre stalker,
Lady Kaka, read chicken entrails and tell you something else? You know,
for a fee she'll use "vedic maths" and get a little more precision in
the predictions. For a just a small amount more you'll get "persaud"
(the Trini way of ispelling "prasad") from the mighty Atom Bum Vrishabham.
BTW you are whinging about "inspiration" and "initiative" to a
copy-paste artist, a mindless bot, human flotsam, ...
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>> And you know what, most among them did work independently
>> as innovators usually end up doing.
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> Of course. It is a lonely task, but no other work is more enjoyable,
> more rewarding, more satisfying than the job of the creator.
>
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
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VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty
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